Chris/Garnett
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Post by Chris/Garnett on Feb 23, 2013 10:14:28 GMT -5
With all the things that have been going on in the world of sports for the past, oh, I dunno, century or so, one thing pretty much remains the same, teams or franchises either get established, move to a different city or kick the bucket and leave their fanbases pissed off for decades on end by announcing their end. But, there are those who strive from teams being defunct and re-established (i.e.: The Baltimore Ravens, the Winnipeg Jets, the Washington Nationals, the Houston Texans etc.) and those who end up pissed off beyond belief because their team could've been something before the U-HAUL Truck sped away (i.e.: the Vancouver Grizzles moving to Memphis, TN in 2001, Los Angeles, CA not having an NFL Team since 1995 because the Rams moved to St. Louis and the Raiders moved back to Oakland, the Montreal Expos moving to Washington, D.C. in 2004 after 37 Years or mediocre baseball, Colts moving from Baltimore to Indy in the middle of the night back in '84 and soon the Sacramento Kings will become the Antiques Roadshow of the NBA and move to Seattle, etc.). And then, there are those who wished their team was financially strapped to stay around (the CFL's Ottawa Rough Riders in 1996 and most of the old Minor League or lesser known Sports League Franchises with formerly driving fan markets know that too well.). So, I ask all or you (or whoever stumbles upon this post), if you were the owner of a Major or Minor Market Sports Franchise (don't matter if it's real, fake or International), would you build it up into a powerhouse dynasty, move to a different market or basically...... kill it?
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Post by Goldash on Feb 23, 2013 14:30:00 GMT -5
If I had the money to purchase a sports team, I'd be clear from the start about whether or not I would move it or keep it in its own city. The problem with certain ownership groups is that they don't make these intentions clear until they purchase. Take the current owner of the Oklahoma City Thunder. His intentions to move the team from Seattle weren't known until negotiations to build a new arena broke down.
Teams choose to relocate if their market isn't selling out games, isn't generating a profit/enough revenue and can't upgrade or build new facilities. It isn't solely about fan support. At the end of the day, certain owners couldn't care less about the emotions of the fans. Sports is a business above all. If a team owner can't find what he/she wants in the current market, the option is always available to move to a market eager to do what that owner wants.
Folding a team usually only takes place when a team goes bankrupt, the league needs to consolidate or no potential owner is willing to pick them up --- however, the latter doesn't really happen very much in major sports leagues, as seen in the NHL with the Phoenix Coyotes. The Coyotes have been without an owner for three years now and are owned by the NHL itself. Folding teams usually only seem to happen in small or minor sports leagues these days, especially in cases where the league can not support a team itself.
What would I do? Unless I had the ulterior motive to move to a certain area willing to cooperate (again, I'd make these intentions known beforehand unlike certain owners), I'd keep a team where it is and try to breathe new life into a struggling franchise from the top-down (or ground up, whatever works best). Take, for example, the "win now" mentality employed by Terry Pegula in Buffalo. We've made ballsier moves in order to improve our standing. It doesn't seem to be translating into wins just yet, but I'm convinced Pegula's the right guy to get a Stanley Cup as he's a fan of the team and personally wants to see it succeed...what more could you ask for as a fan of a team yet to win its first Cup? That's the kind of thing you want to hear, and his ownership has so far been a PR dream, sparing no expense to do nearly everything the fans want to see.
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Post by Eddie Mac on Feb 23, 2013 16:44:12 GMT -5
If I had the money to purchase a sports team, I'd be clear from the start about whether or not I would move it or keep it in its own city. The problem with certain ownership groups is that they don't make these intentions clear until they purchase. Take the current owner of the Oklahoma City Thunder. His intentions to move the team from Seattle weren't known until negotiations to build a new arena broke down. Teams choose to relocate if their market isn't selling out games, isn't generating a profit/enough revenue and can't upgrade or build new facilities. It isn't solely about fan support. At the end of the day, certain owners couldn't care less about the emotions of the fans. Sports is a business above all. If a team owner can't find what he/she wants in the current market, the option is always available to move to a market eager to do what that owner wants. Folding a team usually only takes place when a team goes bankrupt, the league needs to consolidate or no potential owner is willing to pick them up --- however, the latter doesn't really happen very much in major sports leagues, as seen in the NHL with the Phoenix Coyotes. The Coyotes have been without an owner for three years now and are owned by the NHL itself. Folding teams usually only seem to happen in small or minor sports leagues these days, especially in cases where the league can not support a team itself. What would I do? Unless I had the ulterior motive to move to a certain area willing to cooperate (again, I'd make these intentions known beforehand unlike certain owners), I'd keep a team where it is and try to breathe new life into a struggling franchise from the top-down (or ground up, whatever works best). Take, for example, the "win now" mentality employed by Terry Pegula in Buffalo. We've made ballsier moves in order to improve our standing. It doesn't seem to be translating into wins just yet, but I'm convinced Pegula's the right guy to get a Stanley Cup as he's a fan of the team and personally wants to see it succeed...what more could you ask for as a fan of a team yet to win its first Cup? That's the kind of thing you want to hear, and his ownership has so far been a PR dream, sparing no expense to do nearly everything the fans want to see. Speaking of the Sonics move to Oklahoma City, this is one of the most fascinating reads ever, one man's account of the Sonics' final days in Seattle. deadspin.com/5907371/howard-schultz-gave-out-350-starbucks-gift-cards-an-insiders-notes-on-the-shabby-death-of-the-seattle-supersonics |
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Post by freestylewrestling on Feb 23, 2013 20:10:04 GMT -5
and soon the Sacramento Kings will become the Antiques Roadshow of the NBA and move to Seattle Actually, There's word that Sacrememento was thinking of moving to Virginia..most notably, Virginia Beach (my neck of the woods) |
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Chris/Garnett
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I feel really weird getting onto this site over a year after I last visited here. :p
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Post by Chris/Garnett on Feb 24, 2013 4:50:11 GMT -5
and soon the Sacramento Kings will become the Antiques Roadshow of the NBA and move to Seattle Actually, There's word that Sacrememento was thinking of moving to Virginia..most notably, Virginia Beach (my neck of the woods) I see, but I haven't really heard any stories about that. I've only heard people yapping about Seattle being the front-runner to get the Kings from the Maloofs. |
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Chris/Garnett
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I feel really weird getting onto this site over a year after I last visited here. :p
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Post by Chris/Garnett on Feb 24, 2013 4:53:26 GMT -5
If I had the money to purchase a sports team, I'd be clear from the start about whether or not I would move it or keep it in its own city. The problem with certain ownership groups is that they don't make these intentions clear until they purchase. Take the current owner of the Oklahoma City Thunder. His intentions to move the team from Seattle weren't known until negotiations to build a new arena broke down. Teams choose to relocate if their market isn't selling out games, isn't generating a profit/enough revenue and can't upgrade or build new facilities. It isn't solely about fan support. At the end of the day, certain owners couldn't care less about the emotions of the fans. Sports is a business above all. If a team owner can't find what he/she wants in the current market, the option is always available to move to a market eager to do what that owner wants. Folding a team usually only takes place when a team goes bankrupt, the league needs to consolidate or no potential owner is willing to pick them up --- however, the latter doesn't really happen very much in major sports leagues, as seen in the NHL with the Phoenix Coyotes. The Coyotes have been without an owner for three years now and are owned by the NHL itself. Folding teams usually only seem to happen in small or minor sports leagues these days, especially in cases where the league can not support a team itself. What would I do? Unless I had the ulterior motive to move to a certain area willing to cooperate (again, I'd make these intentions known beforehand unlike certain owners), I'd keep a team where it is and try to breathe new life into a struggling franchise from the top-down (or ground up, whatever works best). Take, for example, the "win now" mentality employed by Terry Pegula in Buffalo. We've made ballsier moves in order to improve our standing. It doesn't seem to be translating into wins just yet, but I'm convinced Pegula's the right guy to get a Stanley Cup as he's a fan of the team and personally wants to see it succeed...what more could you ask for as a fan of a team yet to win its first Cup? That's the kind of thing you want to hear, and his ownership has so far been a PR dream, sparing no expense to do nearly everything the fans want to see. Speaking of the Sonics move to Oklahoma City, this is one of the most fascinating reads ever, one man's account of the Sonics' final days in Seattle. deadspin.com/5907371/howard-schultz-gave-out-350-starbucks-gift-cards-an-insiders-notes-on-the-shabby-death-of-the-seattle-supersonicsI see. And yes, like Sonicsgate being a must-see documentary, that article was truly a must-read. But still, Eddie, were you young enough to remember the Colts moving from Baltimore to Indy and how that city tried so hard to get a new franchise put in place? |
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