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Post by Malaphesto on Oct 19, 2009 23:00:04 GMT -5
I demand GWN do the Up In Smoke combo kick in every match I'll punch you in the leg if they don't >:0
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Post by Goldash on Oct 20, 2009 22:12:42 GMT -5
Got the game this afternoon and already created !nterogative and Jaime Emo. Expect some Season 3 Showcase/Test Match vids in the next few days.
I'll post some impressions tomorrow night while at work since I can't quite think of what to type first. Let's just say it's, for starters, the best SVR on a next-gen system and one of the very best in the entire series. CAW, while not perfect, is much more flexible than ever before. The Paint Tool will also make peoples' designs that much more unique.
I haven't even scratched the surface of Story Mode yet...but I can't wait. This is probably the best "bang for your buck" wrestling title in years, ever since the DOR days, and going back further, the era of Shut Your Mouth (still the best in the series IMHO, although time will tell if 2010 will come close).
Can not wait to get some matches off the ground and...dare I say...getting REBIRTH out the door!
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Post by Undamaged Threat on Oct 20, 2009 22:58:41 GMT -5
Did you check what the "Production Features" thing on the pause menu that you mentioned does?
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Post by taoster on Oct 21, 2009 0:32:22 GMT -5
well i got the game today, and really havent played much, ive been in the CAW mode trying to get all my guys ready to get a show done. I did notice that there is alot of new CAW features...some good, some annoy me. I hate that u manually have to set the other attires, instead of it automaticly doing it. Does it think that you want a dramatic attire difference? or that ur gonna tottaly change looks from Cutscene, to entrance, to match(-.-). Also alot of the old options are gone. You cant, to my knowledge, use patterns anymore. Also the tights can only be shortened to knee length which sucks since alot of my CAW's used custom fit short tights....cus its time to change them. Also the game as changed the hair styles, and the templates, alot of my CAW's used and edit template..which is GONE! so now a few of my guys look dramaticly different, im sure that i will get it right after spending more then just one afternoon in the CAW mode. the paint tool has alot of potential..wat makes me sad is that the edges will almost become this pixalated square-y mess. is smooth edges too much to ask for >.< From the matches i played, the matches can be more smooth, and more enjoyable to record and watch. I really hate that the stupid city name always changed, so it means edit something over it! And the "WWE LIVE" logo pops up alot, so cover it up with ur leagues logo.
Thats my two cents up to know...i havent spent enough time played to review it, and want to see what else the game holds. I'm gonna be playing around with the Story creator tommorow, and ill also play some matches and give more of my thoughts...hopefully not this long...and maybe ill learn to use paragraphs instead of one HUGE blob of words..... ;D
(p.s forgive any grammer mistakes, or spelling errors, im tryin to type this up b4 bed, ill edit tommorow)
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Post by Goldash on Oct 21, 2009 9:21:17 GMT -5
Did you check what the "Production Features" thing on the pause menu that you mentioned does? It does not take any of the WWE production logos off the screen, which I hoped it'd do. It only adjusts camera cuts, targeting indicators, displaying the referee's count on-screen, brightness/gamma and reversal help. Nothing else. And that really sucks. There's a way to work around the logos and production stuff, and that's Highlight Reel and basically cutting out the bottom of the frame and stretching the video. This will result in a lower-quality image, sure, but I've been doing this with tag team entrances and the "weapon wheel" during the HTT Finals and it doesn't look bad when it's a compressed video on the web (the uncompressed version looks much worse in comparison, though). Also, from what I've seen, turning the new "hovering HUD" off does NOT turn off the indicator for a trademark and special move. It's ridiculous, to be honest...why not give audio cues like before when a finisher is on its way? Now, even with the HUD off, we know when Jaime or Seth is about to do a finisher or a trademark before they even do it! Where's the surprise factor in that? And yes, the lack of patterns in CAW is a HUGE bummer for me since Seth Stern has been the one character the pattern feature was really MADE for on the roster. His tights will never be the same and because of that, I'm now scrambling to find a new approach for him design-wise. Pity it's come down to this. Also, I don't know if anyone else with the game has noticed, but is it just me, or is the "definition" option gone entirely? If so, that sucks. Guys like Akina and Cory Jones, who were never truly "jacked" before, will now instantly seem to gain muscle. Does the muscle tone change in another way I'm not aware of? Because I haven't seen it yet...sure, it'll work for guys like !ntero and Emo, but Akina and Cory will look very out of place. In other news, I carried over some facial morphing values from 2008 and, while these didn't work well when copied to 2009, the 2010 end results turned out much better than I anticipated. !nterogative (...yes, the beard is back...take it for what you will...) looked pretty "iffy" even after tweaking, but Emo turned out magnificently. One look and you'll recognize him. !ntero looks more or less the same but there are some elements in his facial structure that got lost in translation. Some last-minute tweaks will help any inconsistencies in both. Yes, introductions on pay-per-views have the annoying "city name" logos on them. Yes, I figured out a way around them as well...simply capturing intros separately, making two intros for continuity's sake for the same wrestler. It'll take a helluva lot more time but at least it'll cover up the "city info" graphic. I did go into Create-a-Story a bit last night and I can't stand that...without text inserted, characters' mouths often don't move when they're supposed to speak during these cutscenes! This will be a large barrier for the show but once again, I could just cut the text out of the frame. Yes, it will result in a poorer-looking and poorer-framed image but who's going to notice with all that "internet compression"? "Crotch Blur" is the worst in years. Seriously. It takes up the entire area with only a SMALL area above the region in question for designs. It almost makes me want to use the "Festus Trunks" Yukes included and sacrifice the character looking like an absolute dope for a better-looking design. My !nterogative design only has a design on the back of the tights and nothing on the front. I tried to squeeze in a custom logo I made for him and it looked pretty horrid with the small area they give you. Why THQ pleads ignorance to this stuff while Yukes makes it worse for us is pretty stupid. Is the Paint Tool really to blame? Jeez. CAW nicknames do more harm than good, I think. I gave Emo the nickname "The Champ" and when his finisher activated, the fans chanted "Let's Go Champ!". The nickname I chose for !ntero, "The Monster", makes the fans chant "Monster's Gonna Kill You!" when his finisher activates. Dumb, but this can be worked around by replacing the audio with a standard cheer or one of my custom-made chants during the match. There may also be an option for "crowd chants" in the volume menu but I can't remember to be honest. I'll see if it's there later tonight after work. If so, problem solved. Despite all these annoyances I'm very pleased by what Yukes brought to the table this year. CAW, while cutting out some "previously-essential" stuff, is probably the best in years. So much more interesting things can be done. However, the tried-and-true formula of Yukes cutting things out for NO APPARENT REASON really drives me up a wall. I'm very optimistic, but I know that most of this "annoying stuff" will take some getting used to, and some hard work to overcome.
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Post by revolution1232000 on Oct 21, 2009 9:36:45 GMT -5
FAHKIN' BOOLSHIT
I don't have the game just yet but WWE Live logos and such put me off using the game for a CAW league, because it just adds more work to it unless I decide to do a brand of WWE. However I think Vince would crack down on that.
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Post by Goldash on Oct 21, 2009 9:44:42 GMT -5
Going to make another post for this issue instead of adding to the "novel" in my previous post: I hate that u manually have to set the other attires, instead of it automaticly doing it. Does it think that you want a dramatic attire difference? or that ur gonna tottaly change looks from Cutscene, to entrance, to match(-.-). What I did was basically initially copy my ring attire to each separate tier of the attire and edit from there. It's not too bad IMO. Just finish your ring attire first and build upon it. As for alternate attires themselves (not sure if this is what you meant), you can copy one attire design to another. For example, Jaime's standard attire has dark blue pants. His first alternate, "T-Shirt", is that same attire but with his "Rated E for Emo" shirt he wears in his entrance copied to "ring attire". The last two attires I made for him were color switches (there's a black-on-black attire for example that switches the t-shirt to the red color you saw in Episode 9 instead of the black color I have on it now). Also, two more random things...I love that you can now rotate at a pseudo 360-degree angle this year (it made the Rated E for Emo stuff look a lot better, for one) and that if you delete a clothing layer with a design on it, you don't have to go back and delete the designs themselves on the skin of the wrestler. They don't stay on the skin as in previous years, they simply delete with the wristband/attire/whatnot you put them on.
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Post by Malaphesto on Oct 21, 2009 17:55:01 GMT -5
I don't have the game just yet but WWE Live logos and such put me off using the game for a CAW league haven't you already make and closed like 6?
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Post by Undamaged Threat on Oct 21, 2009 19:28:52 GMT -5
You didn't type that.....TELL ME...You did not just type that. I had this idea for Jamie's shirt that has the text "EMOlution" with two different text between EMO & lution. I had this idea to myself for months. lol
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Post by Goldash on Oct 21, 2009 19:41:29 GMT -5
You didn't type that.....TELL ME...You did not just type that. You already saw my idea in Episode 9 on Jaime's t-shirt. It's exactly the graphic below with "EMO" replacing "Everyone" and "URWL" replacing "ESRB". EMOlution is an awesome name, though. Something I never thought of. Maybe I could rename the "Emotional Sendoff" the "EMOlution" because the "Sendoff" name isn't my cup of tea TBH. Mind if I send the trademark money overseas?
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Post by Undamaged Threat on Oct 21, 2009 19:52:18 GMT -5
Mind if I send the trademark money overseas? Oh yes please. But yea, In my mind the "E rated for EMO" slogan sounded....Edge-like if you know what I mean. lol And you gonna use the paint tool to make that graphic?
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Post by Goldash on Oct 21, 2009 20:01:49 GMT -5
But yea, In my mind the "E rated for EMO" slogan sounded....Edge-like if you know what I mean. lol I wasn't planning on using it as a slogan or a phrase at all so there's no need for concern. I just used the phrase to describe an ESRB logo parody. And you gonna use the paint tool to make that graphic? I was going to make the logo entirely with the Paint Tool but I found out the hard way that I'm terrible at it and that it's not as deep as the one found in DOR2 (no text, no layers, no complex shapes, no option to move parts of one image around, et cetera...just a bare-bones editor). What I actually did was make the shape of the boxes and the little "restricted copyright logo" in the corner in Paint Tool, and added the text afterward when I made the Emo CAW. It was pretty cumbersome but it ended up looking a hell of a lot better than it would have if I had left the horrible text I created in Paint Tool in. It looks much better with the text from actual CAW mode in the logo. Also, since the logo is a "small" Paint Tool logo (one that can be used up to 10 times according to the editor), I put two on his pants, two on his wristbands and one on his entrance and backstage t-shirt. It turned out very well IMO. Also, one other thing, the pants designs on Emo's CAW have changed. No longer does Emo wear an intricate, complex weaving of tribal designs. Now, there's a simple (yet fairly complex) "racing stripe" down both sides. It may not be much on paper but I think it brings a bit less "clutter" to the attire. Pics should be up in the next few days so I'll let you all judge for yourselves...
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Post by Undamaged Threat on Oct 21, 2009 20:44:04 GMT -5
Also, one other thing, the pants designs on Emo's CAW have changed. No longer does Emo wear an intricate, complex weaving of tribal designs. Now, there's a simple (yet fairly complex) "racing stripe" down both sides. Sounds like the URWL caws won't look as good as they once were in 07 & 08. Also, Is that wrist band length glitch (which you can't have it all the way down) still in?
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Post by Goldash on Oct 21, 2009 22:21:29 GMT -5
Sounds like the URWL caws won't look as good as they once were in 07 & 08. I couldn't have said it better myself! I won't be putting forth any effort this year because I have more important things to focus on at the moment. Expect better looking CAWs in six months to a year. I'm trying to go all out on production features this season so that everyone will turn a blind eye to just how bland the CAWs will look. You heard it here first! ;D And in other news, the internet is serious business. All of the time. Also, Is that wrist band length glitch (which you can't have it all the way down) still in? I believe so, for the standard wristbands at least. There's also isn't the "low, single color cloth wristband" that I always used in 08 either. I had to darken a multi-shaded wristband to give Jaime the right cut of wristband that he used on the attire you all remember him wearing.
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Post by taoster on Oct 21, 2009 22:37:05 GMT -5
i couldnt agree more with goldash. i have almost all my roster transferred, and they all look very strange on 2010...the did improve the CAW thing, but they got rid of the things that we needed...in a way
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Post by Goldash on Oct 21, 2009 23:17:16 GMT -5
Taoster, I hope you weren't agreeing with THIS quote! I couldn't have said it better myself! I won't be putting forth any effort this year because I have more important things to focus on at the moment. Expect better looking CAWs in six months to a year. I'm trying to go all out on production features this season so that everyone will turn a blind eye to just how bland the CAWs will look. You heard it here first! ;D
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Post by Goldash on Oct 24, 2009 9:13:42 GMT -5
IF THERE'S ONE THING I CAN'T STAND ABOUT THIS GAME:
It's the almost endless chanting of a CAW's nickname during the match. Please tell me there's a way around this. Because it happens so frequently and so annoyingly that it's going to be absolute HELL cutting the generic chants out of the match.
Why couldn't Yukes have given us an option for "no nickname" if we knew the crowd would be going absolutely apeshit for "The Champ", "The Dog" or "The Prince" during a match? This is almost another way this game is supposedly trying to keep any sort of "manipulation" to a minimum. Yes, I have my own way around these sort of things but it'll make my job as an editor much, much harder than it once was.
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Post by Main_Event_Quality on Oct 24, 2009 9:39:19 GMT -5
IF THERE'S ONE THING I CAN'T STAND ABOUT THIS GAME: It's the almost endless chanting of a CAW's nickname during the match. Please tell me there's a way around this. Because it happens so frequently and so annoyingly that it's going to be absolute HELL cutting the generic chants out of the match. Why couldn't Yukes have given us an option for "no nickname" if we knew the crowd would be going absolutely apeshit for "The Champ", "The Dog" or "The Prince" during a match? This is almost another way this game is supposedly trying to keep any sort of "manipulation" to a minimum. Yes, I have my own way around these sort of things but it'll make my job as an editor much, much harder than it once was. Ew, really? Man, every year there is something annoying. I swear, EVERY FREAKING YEAR!!
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Post by shadowryder100 on Oct 24, 2009 10:08:51 GMT -5
is there still issues with building caw abilties? by this i mean do u still have to play career mode for each superstar to build abilities?
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Post by Goldash on Oct 24, 2009 10:20:13 GMT -5
is there still issues with building caw abilties? by this i mean do u still have to play career mode for each superstar to build abilities? There are a good amount of CAW abilities unlocked from the onset (such as "springboard attack", "dive to outside", "illegal pin", "finisher theft" and "taunt theft"). There are more that you can unlock in Career but it seems like the ones that you'll use the most are already available from the beginning. Also, CAWs earn attributes after every match they play and how good they wrestle, sort of like a weird bastard child of DOR's post-match point/rating system and SVR2006-2008's belt progression system. I prefer this method to spending endless hours in Career.
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